FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by junchoon » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:10 am

are those pics from may or the april issue?

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Tachyon » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:29 pm

What's up with that last "Black Knight" image? I'm not feeling too good about that.
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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by levrin » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:26 pm

Nu Soard Graphite wrote:What do you guys think? Brilliance, or has Nagano finally gone off the deep end? (I've been expecting the latter for quite some time now)
I thought we'd already established that Nagano cares not at all what anyone else thinks when he took nearly a decade off to make a movie all by himself. I wouldn't be surprised if the FSS timeline has significant changes when next it comes up. Japanese messageboards indicate mixed feelings about this apparent incorporation of GTM into FSS as well.

Edit: Seems like Nagano's decided to change lots of names to go with the redesigns and switch to GTM terminology as well. At least with new names we'll know which version of any robot we're talking about. New timeline confirms GTM takes place on Both in JC451.

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:01 pm

Tachyon wrote:What's up with that last "Black Knight" image? I'm not feeling too good about that.
It's terrible compared to the old Vatshu. I loved the old Vatshu images and the Decors version was looking particularly excellent.

I understand that mecha designers design aesthetics change over time, but this is too much all at once. While I don't mind the GTM designs for the most part (the GTM Black Knight being an exception) they don't compare to the MH designs IMO. I'm wondering if there was some kind of copyright argument with the people over at Toyspress about some designs or aspects of FSS and that's why he changed it?
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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:04 pm

levrin wrote:
Nu Soard Graphite wrote:What do you guys think? Brilliance, or has Nagano finally gone off the deep end? (I've been expecting the latter for quite some time now)
I thought we'd already established that Nagano cares not at all what anyone else thinks when he took nearly a decade off to make a movie all by himself. I wouldn't be surprised if the FSS timeline has significant changes when next it comes up. Japanese messageboards indicate mixed feelings about this apparent incorporation of GTM into FSS as well.
Yes, the timeline has had massive changes. This is already being discussed on some Japanese message boards.
Edit: Seems like Nagano's decided to change lots of names to go with the redesigns and switch to GTM terminology as well. At least with new names we'll know which version of any robot we're talking about. New timeline confirms GTM takes place on Both in JC451.
Ah, it takes place early JC era. I figured it was at the tail end of the Super Empire but okay. So now that the timeline has changed, what the heck is this thing going to morph into now? Are The SATAN still featured villians? WTF NAGANO!
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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by levrin » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:13 pm

Let's look at some scans from 2ch posters while waiting for my Newtype and GTM World Guide to be shipped from Japan!
A-Toll:
http://s3.gazo.cc/up/20381.jpg
http://up.null-x.me/poverty/img/poverty56569.jpg
Black Knight:
http://s3.gazo.cc/up/20382.jpg
http://up.null-x.me/poverty/img/poverty56677.png
Schpeltor:
http://up.null-x.me/poverty/img/poverty56676.jpg
LED Mirage:
http://up.null-x.me/poverty/img/poverty56604.jpg

In other news, Designs 4 planned for Autumn, new volumes and reprints going forward should be Newtype-sized instead of half-Newtype-sized, with terminology retcons and color pages where the original magazine runs had color pages. Of course, we can't trust half of what Nagano says about scheduling, so who knows?

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:35 pm

Yeah, I like that A-toll. And the Neptune as well. But I don't like them as much as the old versions. That's my problem. :(

Well, as long as the story is the same quality, I'll still follow it.
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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by DYNAKYRIS » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:11 am

HAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Let the games resume!!! Just found out about this stuff on my Tumblr feeds...

Heavy Metal L-Gaim~Fool For the City~The Five Star Stories~GoThicMade~???

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by levrin » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:44 am

Best comment on the 2ch thread is "We're still doing better than the Masamune Shirow fans."

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:44 am

I read some stuff on his Facebook posts that said something to the effect that according to one of the interviews, there was some copyright issues with Sunrise because of L-Gaim. If that's the case, it makes sense that he changed enough to avoid infringement.
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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by levrin » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:42 pm

Since everyone's so surprised, it must have been that one interview in Eureka, since it's too expensive for most fans to buy for just a few pages and Eureka is more of an artsy magazine than a popular culture magazine.

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Euhsung » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:02 pm

FSS Tracer Ex.1 Scans
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2264106961

April Newtype Scans
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2215500843

May Newtype Scans
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid ... 1224806489

All credit to Yoku and Zyssherry from the Baidu forums.

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by levrin » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:49 pm

Oh, that's interesting: Fatima Oocutu is evacuating A-Tolls by remote control (the new Fatima gear apparently has wifi). I wonder if Nagano purposely put out this weird Black Knight design first so that the other changes would be easier to take? At the end of the chapter Decors decides it's time to send it in for an overhaul, and it might well come back looking completely different.

In any case, these are photographs of the pages rather than scans; I'll scan my own Newtype when it shows up.

Edit:
Terminology changes:
Mortar Headd (MH) -> Gothicmade (GTM)
Fatima -> Automatic Flowers (AF) ("Fatima" still exists as a colloquialism)
Etraml -> Syn Fire
Meight -> Garland
Meister -> Slider
My assumption is that I'll be able to confirm terminology changes with the GTM World Guide.
New standard weapon is the energy sword/gun Electro-magnificated Cursor Gat Blow same as in Gothicmade.

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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:08 am

I'm unhappy with the change to the Kaienken. Other than that, I have no problems with the character pics. They look great. And hopefully that Black Knight gets a major redesign. Overall I do like the design of the GTM's, just not as much as the old skool MH's.
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Re: FSS scheduled for May 2013 Newtype

Post by levrin » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:02 am

I'm not happy with apparently everyone using Gat Blows as default weaponry. After spending so long establishing melee combat as standard, suddenly everyone has a beam rifle.

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