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Post by Tachyon » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:48 pm

Thanks for continuing with this work. Using familiar body part words probably helps many fans that don't want to get bogged down in technical terms. Let's discuss it when all the image-linked text boxes are translated.
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Post by levrin » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:46 am

[Designs 2, p182]
Power Pistons and Limbs

[right side, top to bottom]
Support arm for attaching the large shoulder covering.

Energy Bypass (Bone)
The explosive strength of the power pistons comes from ezlaser bypasses inside the large upper arm and thigh bones. Located internally to protect them from combat damage, external tubing is only used for the return bypasses (grey-colored parts).

Single Phase Power Cylinder
Pushes against the elbow cam to extend the arm.

V-shaped Power Cylinder
Bypass for returning energy recovered from the arm to the main engine. Power is transmitted through the shoulder to the keel. While the two return bypasses here on the V Siren Neptune are visible from outside, combat damage to them is not a significant issue as they only carry recovered energy.

Wrist and Fingers
Too small to see on this diagram, the wrist and fingers are made from a multitude of power cylinders.

Knee Joint Party
While the power cylinders perform the same functions as muscles and tendons on a human, the joint section not only has to bend the joint, but also act correspondingly when bending or extending the leg, and when jumping.

Return Bypass

X-shaped Power Cylinder
The calf makes use of the largest X-shaped power cylinder. With a central torsion bar acting as a significant shock absorber, the two combined power cylinders can produce extreme force. The dual cylinder setup allows for free ankle movement and swinging of the leg from the knee.

While not strictly necessary for combat, the heel does relieve some of the burden on the ankle. As such, it is generally included using a standard power cylinder.

[left side, top to bottom]
Single Phase Power Cylinder
Power cylinder for spreading the legs.

Bidirectional Power Cylinder
A bidirectional power cylinder is employed on the front of the thigh to reduce the load on the knee and for kicking motions.

V-shaped Power Cylinder
For bending down the knee and extending the heel.

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Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:12 am

So some Power Cylinders are for pushing/pulling power and others are for recovering/recycling energy? Sounds interesting. Power Cylinders for kicking motions, but we have yet to see a MH kick. Hopefully as the Sorcerer Wars intensifies we will see much MH combat and finally see what these monstrosities are capable of.
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Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:29 pm

any more forthcoming?
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Re: Dead message board :(

Post by levrin » Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:48 am

I clearly have too many interests and not enough time to spread around amongst them, but now that I've finished playing Xenoblade I'll get back to this. In fact, here's one right now.
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Post by levrin » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:11 am

[Designs 2, p183]
[upper right image]
Ezlaser Engine Power System

[right side, top to bottom]
The knight's cockpit goes above here, but since the entire power system is wrapped in protective gel no heat or vibration passes to the cockpit. See p175, "Terror Mirage Internal Structure".

The function turbines' output is all transmitted to the keel. As the turbine blades generate waste heat, they are not connected to the bypasses. Waste heat is expelled outside via armor slits.

Ezlaser Engine
Really small. Unbelievable that this is the core that drives a 400m starship across interstellar distances or creates a buster launcher blast.

[left side, top to bottom]
Mother Energy Bypass
Upper two are output, lower two are return.

The final armor piece is set here on the chest. This triple-armored damper section covers the hemisphere of the engine, though as the engine itself is essentially unbreakable, it is intended more for the cockpit and surrounding systems.

[upper left image]
Engine Cross-section

[top side, right to left]
Engine External Isolation Gel
The engine is suspended in gel, but the specifics of this substance are unknown.

Input/Output Bypass

[bottom side, right to left]
Energy Emission Outer Wall
Energy emitted here passes through a bypass to the function turbines. To contain this tremendous energy the entire surface is encased and emitted energy is collected from all sides to be passed to the bypasses.

Core Shell Inner Wall
Energy generation takes place here. Pin shapes directed into the core seem to drain returned energy. These spikes pierce through the shell but are obscured by the core's light in the diagram.

Ezlaser Core
Almost perfectly round, it's shape when actually running is unknown.

[lower image]

[left column]
Ezlaser Function System
Energy from the engine is converted here to energy to drive the power cylinders and motors. In horsepower it's said to amount to one trillion hp. If a human were to touch a turbine blade, he'd be ash instantly. Nearly any object from the three dimensional world would be vaporized by the energy coming off the turbine blades. Taking advantage of this produces the "Buster Launcher". The frame containing these function turbines is not destroyed because the energy is distributed before it reaches the "Buster Limit" reaction threshold. A buster launcher's long barrel contains the expanding ezlaser energy until it reaches the muzzle, at which point it exceeds the buster limit and vaporizes all materials before it. Here we have the engine system without its pressure-resistant jelly mantle. See p176 for covered appearance, "Ezlaser Engine and Function Turbines #1" (Terror Mirage).

[upper right]
Ezlaser Bypass
Ezlaser energy generated by the engine and regulated by the function turbines pass along this pipe to the various power cylinders. Equivalent to the aorta on a human.

[bottom side, right to left]
Function Turbines/Generator
Performs energy amplification and conversion. The fins on either side are for output. The center fin is for returned energy. Essentially, a generator. No idea what the inside is like. While a MH's base energy is light, on initial startup or combat situations where generator recharging cannot keep up, the central fan section can also be used as an intake for a buster launcher's buster energy.

Power Effector
Converts ezlaser energy to simpler electricity, acts as a condensor, and functions as a transformer for various energies. When armored, this part is covered with organic gel, making it resemble a living organ.

Ezlaser Engine
Wrapped in a sturdy shell. Internals are above.
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Re: Dead message board :(

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:06 am

levrin wrote:I clearly have too many interests and not enough time to spread around amongst them, but now that I've finished playing Xenoblade I'll get back to this. In fact, here's one right now.
Thanks for your contributions thus far. No hurry on posting them. Do so when you get the opportunity.
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Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:16 pm

So we discover that Buster Launchers really are energy weapons and don't fire a physical projectile of any kind. So what are the "Shells" of the Jagd Mirage made of that they are capable of holding Ezlaser Energy at the Buster Limit indefinitely? Or maybe the energy is held just below the limit (the shells themselves made of Metrotechachrome and coated with the energy resistant gel) and the Jagd's auxiliary Ezlazer engine charges the shell to just beyond the limit before they fire? I would also assume the "shells" are more like batteries holding the Ezlazer energy in reserve until needed for charging the Buster Launcher.

Hmmm....me wants more info!
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Re: Dead message board :(

Post by Tachyon » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:28 am

I must say, those are some interesting questions. I'm wondering now too.
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Post by levrin » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:57 am

Designs 1, p57 says something about the shells being a solidified buster energy catalyst for rapid charging. Amusing how tiny the Jagd's KOG-sized backup buster launcher is in the pictures on that page.

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Post by Tachyon » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:50 pm

Thanks for the info, levrin. Nu Soard? Can you make a note of this and advise on which mortar headd pages to update?
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Post by DYNAKYRIS » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:25 pm

How about eventually getting the English FSS Wiki page up to par with the Japanese?

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Re: Dead message board :(

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:58 pm

The english Wikipedia page for FSS was much larger and more detailed, but individuals keep coming along and changing things. It sucks. There was info someone (don't know who) took from the Gearsonline Five Star Stories page, and some individuals removed/changed it. I'm not particularly worried about Wikipedia, but it would be handy to pad out the info there to hopefully peak someones interest and hopefully that will lead them here.
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Re: Dead message board :(

Post by Tachyon » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:34 pm

Many people are interested in the Smoke Walls article translation so I've made this thread "sticky".
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Post by DYNAKYRIS » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:57 am

How 'bout a re-translation of that cryptic Monarch Sacred tract?

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