MH Design flaw ?

Hydra Mirage · Post by **Hydra Mirage** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:05 pm

This is by no means an attack on Nagano's aesthetics (which are impeccable!)

So the engine for most (all?) Mortar Headds is in the legs ?

Well if I was fighting another MH it would quickly turn into a knee slapping fight. I mean,
1) the knee seems the most vunerable (least armoured) point on an MH, especially the newer no heel mecha (which have no armour at the rear at all).
2) Most MH are top heavy, so damaging the knee would most likely topple the upper body and at least make it immobile.
3) Attacking the knee would sever the power connection to the entire body.

What do you think ?

ro3159 · Post by **ro3159** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:13 pm

Only Mirage MH have engine in legs. Most MH has in breast.

Post by **Tachyon** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:54 pm

And the fact that the engine is located in the Mirage machine's legs is probably classified information. I'm guessing all FEMC knights are instructed not to tell anyone.

Rubel Colus · Post by **Rubel Colus** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:33 pm

MH Kan also features engine in the legs design. They copied the idea from Mirage MHs.

Not forgetting Junchoon. Perhaps Berlin SR2s are similar as well.

Most of engines are in the chest area, behind the Headliner's cockpit. If you have Smoke Walls you can see it

Mave · Post by **Mave** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:56 pm

"Flaw" number 2 affects ALL bipedal mecha so,kinda hard to get around that one unless you are piloting a TA from Gasaraki ;P

Hydra Mirage · Post by **Hydra Mirage** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:57 pm

"Flaw" number 2 affects ALL bipedal mecha so,kinda hard to get around that one unless you are piloting a TA from Gasaraki ;P

True. I guess attacking any limb would result in a disadvantage for the victim.

But the leg is an especially valuable AND underprotected Target in Mirages...

Good to hear this isn't the case in other FSS mecha.
Maybe that's why the AKD moved it there...?

hitori · Post by **hitori** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:12 pm

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Nu Soard Graphite · Post by **Nu Soard Graphite** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:36 pm

Some FSS knights act more like Samurai, then again, some act more like Medieval knights. Depends on the nation, culture and individual preferrence, it seems. (Kaien dresses like a Ronin at times and acts much like one as well. Muse Van Reyback, though he uses a Katana, is all Templar through and through)

Then again, there are some Knight corps that don't conform toward either school of thought. The Mirage Knights are one such order. They tend to act more like special forces and assasins than knights or samurai!

Oh, and lets not forget Allen Braford. A mercenary, native-tracker who dresses and fights like a samurai....sometimes.

hitori · Post by **hitori** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:58 pm

Well, they may think or dress differently, but the core discipline/philosophy on duty, honor, etc is pretty much common throughout.

And the use and design of MH, which was what I was talking about, is so very Japanese.

Nice to see you again Nu Soard.

Hydra Mirage · Post by **Hydra Mirage** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:23 am

I love the Samurai / Knights Templar analogy.

Mark, did you write the intro on the Waxtrax site ?
I always thought that was a great piece.
Really sets the tone and context of FSS within Japanese culture.

hitori · Post by **hitori** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:44 pm

No, I'm not the one who wrote the intro.
I used to do some translation of NewType and artbooks, but the only things that ended up in the public website were my translations on MH Groon and MH Neptune. :)

Post by **Tachyon** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:52 pm

If you ever get the urge to do more translation, let us know.

Hydra Mirage · Post by **Hydra Mirage** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:55 pm

I'd love to hear about Groon-Eldergrain and the Neptune.

Any chance you could post your translation ?

Nu Soard Graphite · Post by **Nu Soard Graphite** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:45 pm

Yeah man, that was some good stuff. Re-posting them here would be very cool, and as soon as we get some images of the Groon, we'll put it up. (the original neptune is already up, so you're translation could be added right away!)

hitori · Post by **hitori** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:04 pm

I might try translating some stuff again.
Lately there has been lot of new materials released.
Most of them I haven't even read yet...

But about the past translations, I lost them all with the WaxTrax server crashes.
Never kept any backup because I wrote directly to the message board.
If anyone has saved them, they are free to post here in GEARS.