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Taika Mist Twist Breakers....

Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:34 pm

Hey everyone!

The december 2003 Newtype had an article about the two swords featured in the FSS tale. One is the Kaienken (the huge black sword) and the other is the Darklight sword (the one owned by Deimos Hierarchy, then passed down to Kaien. In Meeth's possesion currently)

Both swords have something to do with the Taika universe. Maximum gains possesion of the Kaienken and probably takes it to the Taika universe with him, but I'm not sure of the connection that the Darklight sword has to Taika (unless that's supposed to end up being Kallen's sword?)

Does anyone have a translation (or could possibly make an attempt at one)?

Anyway, here's the article:

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Post by Nu Soard Graphite » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:36 pm

Btw, its this kind of detailed information that we'd like to put on the FSS website!
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Post by zchen » Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:52 am

From what I gather. Both swords are Kaien sword. They are actually a pair, hince Magdal's comment in vol.10 to Arr about them. The metal sword is the male sword, and the beam sword is the female sword. When Max is transported to the Taika universe, he carried the male sword with him, The priestess Siri of Taika will have the female sword. Together they go on to defeat the demon king lucifer, this happens around cluster year 3300~. Apparently these swords ignore the time space continum and can move from past to future and future to past...they have been used to defeat demons through out history.
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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:17 am

Soushinjin,Kaienken<>KAIEN Taika Mist Twist Brakers

It is said that the Kaienkens which was born from Kallen, the god of Taika, appeared in Joker universe over dimension and time.
Kaienkens are as strong as Speid(Metrotecachrome sword) or Spadd(light saber), the swords used by any knight do not change strength at all. But the Kaienkens will be opened power as the swords made by God only to very limited purpose. To be known generally, it begins from sword master Swans had owned "Male sword" wihch is long sword and speid. After sword master Dimos Hiahraki actually using "female sword" which is short sword and light saber is known widely as twin swords Kaienkens. Male sword has not used in Joker universe, only actually used Female Sword as Magdal having said.
This shows data now only known about Kaienkens.
But, Appearance, length of stay about Kaienkens ignores time, from future to past and from past to future, it moves freely. After appearance, the swords were separated, they moves time separately. And because they are God swords, there are not time paradox based on moving time. Gods have erased Kaienken's inconsistency which was generated.
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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:09 am

Male Sword

AD6000 era
Owner: Skins who are Kastepo emperor Yarn's husband. Ahat's abstraction child was given the sword by the empress of flame. At the Both, after agreement with Dragons, he destroyed Satan "Nostrasbasms" at Stant. It is guessed that Kaien was named from this sword.

JC2200 era
Owner: Nakandra Swans
Probably, he was handed from Amaterasu family. After to Haricon.

JC2400 era
Owner: Haricon, Colus prince
As sword master Haricon' sword who is involvement in integration of Rondo continent, the sword were widely known in Joker.

JC2900 era
Owner: Arr Fortissimo
The sword which had stayed in Juno, directly was given over Arr. Till 3200 . it stays in Joker.

JC3200 era
Owner: Sword master Maxi
The sword having by Arr, first time ever, is given to truly owner. He destroyed again Satan Tantsuminre.

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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:26 am

Female Sword

AD5000 era later
Owner: Blue purple emperor, Ahat
In Joker Cluster era, Female sword only appears in Stant, destroyed Satan Tantsuminre.

AD6000?
Owner: Sword Master Lalafa
The kaienkens which stay in AD century, is lost after this era.

JC2600 era~
Owner: Hierarchy
After this, given to Kaien directly. In Majestic Stand, it stays in Joker Cluster.

JC3170 era
Owner: Sword Master Madra

JC3200 era
Owner: Fatima Queen

JC4100 era
Owner: Disina Misner
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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:51 am

Appearance Kaienken by absolute time

First appearance, JC2000 era?
Owner: Amaterasu no mikoto: twins
The request by Hiperon at Monarch Sacred brings on the swords to Joker Star Cluster, but it is uncertainty. In this appearance, 5 Dragons group together at Delta Belun, and some dragons are lost.
It is said that the battle that even Dragons dies takes place, the truth is only known by Amaterasu no mikoto. This is the kaienken which are first appeared in Joker Universe.
Getting them's work done, they are send to somewhere, don't know who send the swords, Kallen? or Sopp?, and when sends.

????? spacetime-unknown, year-unknown
Owner: Emperor Azdebuet Delta belun Monsolon?
Destroyed Satan Karistchul


????? spacetime-unknown, year-unknown
Owner: Emperor Kalamity Godarce Fubark
Destroyed Satan OPQL
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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:04 am

Taika Universe, year- unknown
owner: Maximum, Male sword: Silvis, Female sword
Kaienkens go back nature world, then Maximum who is send to Taika universe has the sword for the first time. With Silvis, he suppresses Taika by the twin swords, brings down Great Satan Lucifer Sentaima. After this, they returns to Gods. Timespace is proper for JC3300.

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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:32 am

100,000 years after Taika suppression, Amaterasu and Lachesis's daughter Kallen descends to Taika. She is sometimes around Joker Universe with partner U.R.I. because she worries also weak to Joker Amaterasu and Lachesis. At book five volumes (Japanese Issue 5), Amaterasu said "Well? somewhere..." because he had seen The pattern of handle of the sword had having by Mikoto. But he had forggoton at all. Probably, he never remenber this. And at Character Power Balance before unveiled, Top is Amaterasu. But indeed he has no chance against Kallen's " The father is foolishhh" attack.
virtual most powerful character is Kallen. Because kallen appears soon, I may write such this. Please be docile, Kallen.
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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:34 am

Sorry, my English is very poor. Please tell me your notice.

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Post by Rubel Colus » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:27 am

Thank you ro3159 :wink:

We get to know that even the dragons had died in an ancient battle! I wonder what can be so powerful as to be able to kill a dragon.

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Post by Falk » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:31 am

Mmh lets see... maybe 2 dragons ? :P :P :P
Huhu, well more seriously maybe some demons ?

Thanks ro3159^^

So globally it looks like those 2 swords are made by god on purpose to fight demons.

Though from what I understand, the god we're talking about is Karen (Kallen ? She's the same, right ?). So as she's the most powerful person in the universe, would she have build those two sword on purpose to fight the demons ?
But if so this wouln'd it be a time paradox ? As she's Amaterau and Lachesis' daughter, and born in 7777 if I remember well (well she's the one who reappears in the KOG's head ? Or am I lost ?).
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Post by Rubel Colus » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:32 pm

Yes Kallen made those swords. She was born in JC 7778 (time according to Will), 1 yr after Amat finds Lachy and marries her.

She is also the one who appeared from the head of KOG but that is in the Taika Universe. Taika and Joker universe are separate and time runs differently in both. Not to mention these gods (including Kallen) have power over multiple dimensions, so Time (being the 4th dimension) is not a problem for them. Remember Kallen went back in time more than once (one time to see Sopp and one time to save Lachy from Sentama?)

Dont know why Kallen made those swords. I'm guessing she and the other gods dont want to interfere too much, and chose to assist the people to defeat the Overlords indirectly.

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Post by ro3159 » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:00 pm

Yes, karen means kallen. Thx

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Post by Falk » Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:16 pm

Hehe, the never ending difficulties of translating the japanese names in romaji^^ (and the inverse too)
Though as well as there are difficulties to reproduce all the "occidental sounds" in japanese, even with katakana, maybe we should invent a romaji character which would mean it's a rolled "r", if a word is meant to be produunced with a rolled "r", there's no reason that we write it with a regular "r" :wink: (it all depends if the author thought of the name as an occidental name or a japanese name).

About time travel, well that's the reason why my friends and I dropped it when developping SF universes and story and stuff.
It allows a lot of things, but as soon as you start to think about it rationally, it doesn't work. Here it means Kallen created a sword to send it in the past to allow the civilization to go on on both or whichever planet it was, then after several thousands of years Amaterasu and Lachesis came to earth, and then Kallen was born. Logically it's an impossible loop. So you've got to say yourself "it's a time travel, that's all" (well if that's possible anyway, it's still part of what the human mind can't really imagine (like more than 4 dimensions etcetc)).
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