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Knights Templar versus The Vore

Post by Grebo Guru » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:55 am

Hey all,

So. Yeah... let's see here. I'm active on another board, called "Tri-Gate Creations," which is dedicated to people who customize 1/18th-scale action figures (GI Joe, Star Wars, Microman, WWE Build N' Brawl, etc). TGC has it's own creator-owned universe, as it were. It's called "3060" (as in 3060 A.D.) and it's a post-apocalyptic mishmash of sci-fi, military survivalist adventure, and fantasy. Plus, basically, anything else you can think of. It's really a LOT like the Rifts role-playing game, if you're familiar with that.

Anyway, I recently pitched a couple of ideas for 3060 factions, with associated characters and storylines. I didn't intend for them to involve mecha, but they certainly could. I figured I'd post the ideas here too, so that the awesome folks here could enjoy (hopefully) and pitch in (if so inclined).

I'll duplicate my posts to TGC below.

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Post by Grebo Guru » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:02 am

The Knights Templar in 3060AD

Back in the days of the Crusades, the Knights Templar secured and guarded the travel routes from Europe into the holy land. They also escorted travelers on said routes. In addition, the Knights Templar were highly regarded, powerful, and wealthy as all get-out. They were eventually driven underground, all but destroyed, by the Church who had labeled them as heretics. However, the Templar traditions survived and the Masons claim to be their philosophical descendants. Some believe that the Templars had discovered an ancient biblical secret; that this discovery made the Church insecure, and that the Church therefore trumped up the charges of heresy against the Templars.

Maybe, maybe not. However, I think a new, 3060-era force of Templars would be freakin' COOL. Others chipped in:

Suggestion:
"Maybe the Knights Templar could be the original keepers of the Gates that have been "removed" from power by the Rune Knights. Or maybe the Templars gave up their roles as Gate Keepers and went underground to protect something more precious and powerful. Like an artifact or person who holds the key to the secret of the Tri-Gate. Or something like that."

Suggestion:
"The Knights could have discovered life on other planets or even perhaps through the Gate system.. which then the church would not approve of the existence of other worlds. So they go to banish them.. but instead the knights find an open gate or perhaps with their devotion to their cause have the power to open certain type of gate leading them to where ever... With their power to open gates they instantly become rivals of the Rune Knight who want the gates close and under complete surveillance. So they could be based on a differnet world and travel back and forth.. Or even perhaps they stumble upon the first Knight templar.. and he tells them of the gate.. and they all go that way... something to that effect..."

I responded by saying:

Depending on the situation, regional Knights could have different reactions to each other. When faced with slavering space demons, they would surely form an alliance and fight back to back. When some kind of territory of artifact is contested, they might fight each other bitterly. Omigod, it's reminding me of The Warriors! (Ever see it? Corny/fun 70's streetgang movie.) They could all have an annual summit where representatives meet each year, with a tense truce. Hmmm, there's a LOT of story potential here.

It would be neat to have a character who seeks to reunite ALL the Knights/Templars under one banner again -- a kind of Templar messiah, if you will (or at least charismatic leader ala ML King). He could be a visionary warrior whose goal is to re-unify all the Knights/Templars, organize them into a concerted efforts to drive off/back/away all the evil, chaotic, alien/demonic forces that have taken Earth by siege, and then help Earth's native population restore their culture, civilization, and peace.

Of course, many people and groups would not trust this guy, or not want to see this new world order come to fruition. Some knights would actively resist, and even fight against, this man and his movement. Some would shun him/them. Others would be very loyal. I don't see this guy... oh wait, I have a name:

Oestricher

It's a real-world last name, but it's pronounced "Awe-Striker" (as in "strikes awe into your heart").

Anyway, I don't see Oestricher as evil, or despotic, or anything. Actually, I see him as good and heroic, but stuck in a really tough situation, faced with really tough challenges and really really REALLY tough choices.

The Knights would have trappings of antiquity in some cases, yeah, but at the same time would embrace the most modern of technologies. Laser-aimed railguns, infra-red scanners, "Sivlar" (spider-silk Kevlar) body armor, the works. Plus lightsabers, variable-swords, cybernetic punch daggers, and other cool melee weapons too. And don't forget the occasional psychic power, battlefield enchantment, and supernatural teammate!
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Post by Grebo Guru » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:05 am

Menacing aliens: THE VORE

I tried to come up with a group which is powerful, threatening, cool, and interesting. A group that can have armies and characters. I came up with the Vore. First, an explanation of the name:

-vore:
A combining form meaning “one that eats.” What is eaten is specified by the initial element. For example, a "carnivore" is a meat-eater.


The Vore would basically be 3060's "Borg" (ala Star Trek), but more interesting. Here's my idea:

Somewhere Out There is a group of beings called The Vore. Once, a VERY long time ago, they were human -- but that time was so long ago that it is all but forgotten. These long-ago humans developed high leves of technology. Soon enough they embraced cybernetics, mentally interfacing with their computers and enhacing their bodies with bionic replacements. Eventually their technology advanced to such a degree that they moved beyond flesh-and-blood -- they digitezed their very minds and "migrated" to wholly mechanical bodies. They converted their entire [city/nation/world/whatever] into a purely mechanical environment. That was the way of things for an incredibly long time, as this mechanical seemed to have gone as far as they could. These beings had locked themselves into an utterly conformist, heterogenous, static existence. They stagnated.

But then, they discovered the Gate system. Or perhaps some gate travellers discovered them. In either case, the mechanical beings realized they had made the wrong choice. Reintroduced to the organic -- and to MAGIC -- the mechanical people yearned for the vivaciousness of the natural, the excitement of variety, and the incredible powers of magic which their purely artificial existence could not tap into. The machine people, having become truly machinelike, had lost all sense of empathy; they felt no remorse, no pity, no mercy. They did, however, feel desire, and they desired organic life and the magical powers that come with it. So the machine people cannibalized the living people they met through the gate, stealing their organic body parts, turning themselves into "reverse cyborgs." They started spreaing out, exploring the gate system, stealing and consuming living bodies to replace their own mechanical parts. This earned them the name "The Vore" -- the eaters.

The Vore armies are made up of what are, effectively, robots with full-blown AIs inside them. (These AIs are actually digitized human minds, but it's pretty much the same thing.) Higher-ranking members of the Vore are cyborgs, but "inside-out"; they are mechanical beings enhanced with organic parts. These "Unborgs" could have some small amount of magical or psychic power, but usually none. Elite Vore would be mostly organic, with only a few mechanical parts (especially their eyes and brain) and might well have some fairly potent mystic or psionic abilities. The most formidable and powerful of the Vore would be wholly organic, with magical and psychic powers, not to mention equipped with advanced weapons and high-tech armor.

The great weakness of the Vore would be the fact that they're unaccustomed to humanity; feelings and emotions would be strange for them to experience; their feelings of fear, remorse, and empathy could be exploited. When close contact is managed, sometimes an elite Vore can even be persuaded to defect and help protect sovereign organic beings from the Vore's predation. Talk about story potential, eh?

Actually, it occurs to me that the Vore could be made even more interesting by having different "socio-politcal" factions within their ranks. To wit:

Most of the Vore would be motivated to consume, and become, organics -- but a smaller faction within the Vore would be apalled by this idea, and want to preserve their race's "purity." (That is, their purely-mechanical nature.) These "anit-Vore" ("Counter Vore"? "ContraVore?") might even go so far as to construct android bodies which SEEM wholly organic (or Unborg-like) so as to infiltrate the upper echelons of Vore leadership. Heh.
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Post by Grebo Guru » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:07 am

Templars versus Vore

I think Oestricher is, himself, a Contravore. He could be very, very old, and have been around for more than a thousand years. After all, he'd be a fully-human-looking android; lifespan is not an issue for one such as he. He could have joined the Templars back while they were hiding from the Church's inquisition (or perhaps even before), and have secretly built the Knights Templar into a ultramodern army over the centuries.

A functional Gate could have been the secret the Templars were hiding and guarding all that time, indeed.

Also -- A pantsload of Clone Wars toys came out today, and I bought a bunch because I think the Republic Army equipment and clone troopers have, sorta, the look I see for the Templars. At the very least, the white uniforms reminds me of the Templars.

I'm thinking that the Templars would have soldiers as their main troops, and Knights as their elite. My image of a 3060 Knight Templar would be some kind of white helmet (medieval-ish, but with high-tech attachments/features), a white overcoat with the Templar cross symbol on the back and a sheath for a sword (ala Blade Vampire Hunter's overcoat), dark clothing and/or padded armor, webgear with tactical tools and such.

Annnnnd that's all I've got for now.

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Post by Tachyon » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:12 pm

Great material. I'm sorry I'm not in a position to contribute this week. Makes me wish I could join one of your tabletop roleplaying sessions.
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Post by Grebo Guru » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:45 am

Well, seeing as how I posted this here, I'm thinking about how to work mecha into the equation. It's easy with the Templars, but what about the Vore? Mecha with organic parts cannibalized from... what? Big animals like elephants? No, that's....

Oh wait.

The Vore's mecha would incorporate the bones of DINOSAURS!!!

Dude.
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